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The Outlaw · Veteran Member

Gilbert Arenas

King Baja · Guru

Well right now Arenas is denying it

Gino · Guru

i heard him and his teammate both pulled a gun out on eachother

PistonsFan · Guru

Athletes are such idiots.

Gino · Guru

I think your not allowed to own a gun inside of DC even with the right to bear arms? unless DC changed that. so thats stupid having a gun at a place thats not even allowed

pmoehrin · Guru

Never been a big Gilbert Arenas fan.

Great scorer, I'll give you that, but he can't play a lick of defense, and turns the ball over way too many times for me to justify him as a true point guard.

Not saying he's a bad player. I just don't think he's good enough to justify building a team around, and I don't think he ever was. People just take one look at that PPG, and say OMG this guy is awesome. They don't see that he can't even get two assists for every turnover he has, while the average NBA starting point guard can get at least 2 and a half.

And as I said before he can't play defense, although to be fair, most point guards can't. Rondo, Paul, and Kidd. That's pretty much the list for point guards that actually know how to play defense in my mind. After those three you have a huge dropoff.

The Freak Captain Obvious · Guru

Maybe they were just re-enacting the shootout at the OK Corral lol

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Well Hes a good player and al yes. But this is just stupid ****. He had a debt with teamate Javaris Crittion which he didn't want to pay Javaris confronted him on a plane ride back from Phoneix and then the incident happend the next day during practice. He should have just ****ed maned up and payed the debt off its chump change considering he signed a ****ing 111 Million dollar deal in '08 and now with this if he is found guilty of anything the Wizards could terminate rest of the contract and his playing carrer could be done

Bob333 · Guru

I love this story, Gilbert Areana's a couple of years ago was probaly one of the best players in the league, he has had knee surgeries that have slowed him down and now this. Gilbert is a cheapskate I guess you could say, but wouldn't the league or team/coaching staff like check out the lockers for this kind of stuff? I guess not in Gilbert's case. The NBA needs to implement stricter rules when it comes to this stuff.

The Freak Captain Obvious · Guru

im pretty sure the rules are strict on this.....I dont think the NBA likes having 1/6 of a team strapped during a game...Just imagine the fun if when Artest was in the Detroit brawl if he had a gun in his warm up jacket lol

King Baja · Guru

He would probably pull a plax

Gino · Guru

or if he pulled it out he woulda got shot in a heartbeat cuz its in detroit

King Baja · Guru

Isn't there good parts of Detroit?

The Freak Captain Obvious · Guru

Today it was reported that Arenas brought 3 guns to the arena....does he think he's Morpheus now or something

88DaleJRFan · Guru

I think this guys an idiot. He can score yes but he can be a cnacer to your team

Bob333 · Guru

Wow Gilbert brought three guns to the game that's retarded. Who is he hanging with that he needs to bring guns all the time? He must've pissed someone off and now he is scared for his life.

King Baja · Guru

Artest doesn't even pull this kind of ****

Gino · Guru

i know a shocker.

pmoehrin · Guru

f'n baja wrote:

Artest doesn't even pull this kind of ****

I'd add the word yet on the end of that last sentance, because we never know what Artest is going to do. The man went up into the stands to fight somebody starting a small riot.

It is bizare to say the least though. What I find most surprising is that the Wizards haven't an issued a statement regarding the incident. From a basketball perspective you would probably drop this guy in a hearbeat. The con of may pull gun on teamate pretty much trounces any pro he may have, but from a business perspective that may prove more difficult.

Gilbert Arenas is probably up there in the top ten for most marketable NBA players, and is by far and away the most popular player for a franchise still struggling to find an image after changing their name over a decade ago.

If you left it up to the Wizards front office I'm not even sure they would suspend him, let alone throw him off the team. I think unless you see direct intervention from the NBA, or the D.C. police, Arenas is staying in D.C.

King Baja · Guru

Because let's be honest, I only 3 players on the Wizards, Arenas,butler, and Jamison. But to the common fan, they only know Arenas, you can't drop him.

The Freak Captain Obvious · Guru

well on one hand i undestand being armed......theres been a few guys who have been robbed and dont forget the shooting death of sean taylor....they are sngled out for having money but theres protection and then theres one man militia

pmoehrin · Guru

The Freak Captain Obvious wrote:

well on one hand i undestand being armed......theres been a few guys who have been robbed and dont forget the shooting death of sean taylor....they are sngled out for having money but theres protection and then theres one man militia

I don't buy that we're being singled out crap for a minute. There's an old saying, don't move next to a garbage dump and then complain about the smell.

That is to say if you walk into a club where you feel you need a gun to feel protected, maybe you shouldn't go there. There's plenty of nightspots where athletes could go to, and feel no threat of violence. Why do you have to be in that particular club where the five gang members are hanging out?

Don't complain to me about situations you put yourself in and expect sympathy.

King Baja · Guru

But they shouldn't be able to go where they want.

Bob333 · Guru

They should be Baja becasue they are grown men and they have the right to do what they want. Gilbert Areanas made a huge mistake by not paying back , and for them being singled out, not to be a dick, but it has been said that Sean Taylor hung out with the wrong crowd, and in the end he got burned for it. YOu can't go around hanging with gangsta's and wangsters, cause all that is going to lead is to some problems down the line when they want your money and you don't want to give it to them.

88DaleJRFan · Guru

He's done. He is out for the seaons. David Stern Suspended him indef without pay and league people are syaing its going to be rest fot he seaosn. Really sucks to be him but he just plain out got him self suspended asnd snet David Stern over the edge last night witht he fake pistols before the game. He's going to face some jail time and i don't think he'll be back again

pmoehrin · Guru

Yeah, it's not looking good for him.

It may be good news for the Wizards though in the long run, as Gilbert was being overpayed by about $6 million, so if they can find a way to void his contract, it may actually give them some cap room to work with.

Then again, that's a big if, because you know the union is going to fight that tooth and nail.

As a side note it also happens to be Gilbert Arenas' birthday today, so quite a birthday gift from the commish.

-- Edited by pmoehrin on Wednesday 6th of January 2010 10:27:16 PM

BBALLCOACHD · Senior Member

Gilbert Arenas is a bit of a jokester and I understand that but I dont know how he could make a joke about guns. First he said he took them from home to the arena because he didnt have any guns around his young children. That I find respectable but to bring them into the locker room is straight foolish. Washington D.C. has some of the strictest gun laws in our country. D.C. is a federal onclave, so he is dealing with US Attorneys office not the local D.A. So he loses gambling debt on the plane, I have read that is was either 500 dollars or 60,000 dollars. Im guessing its the latter one. Then he starts needeling Javaris Crittendon and they exchange words but when he gets back to DC he lays out 3 guns and tells Crittendon to pick his poison. I could see that as a very bad joke but he owed the dude probably 60 large!!! I would be pissed too. Arenas better find himself the best lawyer because I am thinking he is probably going to go to jail longer than Plaxico.

King Baja · Guru

They're probably going to charge him with attempted murder.

Bob333 · Guru

They'll charge him with gun possesion, threatening a civilian, and maybe attempted assault.

pmoehrin · Guru

Slowly details are beginning to emerge, and if you believe this Washington Post story, it wasn't a joke as Gilbert Arenas explains, it was a very serious and heated argument.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/06/AR2010010605167.html

King Baja · Guru

I believe it.

88DaleJRFan · Guru

I don't know what to say about this guy anymore other than come on how stupid can u get

King Baja · Guru

He should just say sorry, that usually works.

pmoehrin · Guru

If that story is true, then Arenas' is almost certainly looking at jail time, and is probably finished in the NBA for good.

Crittenton isn't in that much better shape. The only thing he can argue is that Arenas provoked the incident, although his career is probably finished as well.

Gino · Guru

The Nets ban Gambling on team plane

King Baja · Guru

Can't they just go to Atlantic City or some Indian reservation?

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Sure they can. Crittenton was Fined by the Wizards along wiht 3 other players for having fun with Arenas's "Gun Show" fun before the game. Hes going to be suspended sometime by the NBA most likely though it might not be as long but he wil be

pmoehrin · Guru

So earlier today Gilbert Arenas was charged with a felony gun possession charge, and is looking at a maximum five year jail sentence with a fine.

Arenas had four guns in the locker room at the time, and if prosecutors wanted to they could have charged him on all four accounts.

The reason they didn't is because they are probably looking for a guilty plea out of Arenas which they'll probably get. Neither side of a court case ever wants to go to trial, but they do want him to probably serve jail time, and he's probably looking at a least a year sentence, maybe two, but I doubt any longer then that.

As for his future in the league, that question is way more up in the air, but it's pretty clear Gilbert Arenas is not stepping on an NBA court for quite some time.

BBALLCOACHD · Senior Member

He has a plea agreement in place so jail time will be minimal if even at all. He is one lucky SOB

pmoehrin · Guru

I'm surprised, but that's what having a good legal team will get you.

Still the NBA will come down hard on Gilbert, and the Wizards will try to use the opportunity to void his overinflated contract.

If they can do that, it means the Wizards will have shed $50 million from their payroll from next year (that's obviously including other players on the team set to become free agents), and guess who that puts them in the running for?

I've said this team has been looking for an image ever since changing their name from the Bullets to the Wizards, and LeBron James would certainly give them that image. D.C.'s a big market, they do have some talent, and I think that area would suit somebody like LeBron James perfectly.

I still think New York would be number one for possible LeBron destinations, but D.C. would be right there if they could get the cap space.

-- Edited by pmoehrin on Friday 15th of January 2010 12:29:18 AM

88DaleJRFan · Guru

With him reaching a plea deal most likely he'll get a few months of Jail time and probation and what ever else. As for coming back to the NBA i was reading on ESPN that Marc Stein was speculating if the Wizards void his contract He could come back to play for the Magic sometime down the road. Now its only speculation but that would be interesting to see

PistonsFan · Guru

So he isn't getting any jail time

Thoughts?

Bob333 · Guru

He's an athlete that means no jail time for him because he's a millionaire.