The yankees crazy offseason continues from signing all of the big free agents to joe torre's book to a-rod testing postivive for steroids in 2003, the year he won the hr title and mvp. does this tarnish the a-rod legacy like it has to barry bonds and mark mcguire? what are your thoughts?
Hey penn wow that shocks me since Alex Rodriguez has like 5% body fat and he is really skinny. A-rod's legacy will be tarnished a little, but he hasn't hit like 70 homeruns like Mark Mcguire and Barry Bonds.
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Sadly this doesn't surprise me, i'm sick of hearing this crap to be honest, i've just come to figure that from most players during the steroid era were on the "juice." A-Rod is yet another steroid casuality, this crap is ruining the love of the game.
A-rod can make this a big deal or not depending on what he does. If he comes out and denies all of these reports we are not going to hear the end of it. If he comes out and tells us what really happens he'll have the support of his teammates and fans. If that happens ESPN will go "wow this is boring" and drop it. If he denies it, prepare.
Did you here how the head trainer for the Rangers thought that Alex Rodriguez was on steroids, you know you got probelms there. I have a problem that 6 years after the math why are they telling us now. They should've told the public earlier.
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i think that by the time a-rod retires, they are going to find that many people took steroids and probably come to the conclusion that everybody in baseball used some kind of performance enhancing drug, and i think they might excuse a-rod.
The reason why it came out later was because it was anonymous test that the union did. Whoever leaked this information out could be facing a heavy lawsuit from the Yankees Third Baseman.
That is way off-base PSU. There is no way everybody in baseball was juiced. You're really gonna try to say that guys like Greg Maddux or Jamie Moyer were on steroids? That is insane.
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no but i wouldnt be shocked if they did. andy pettitte used hgh to heal his elbow, so whose to say that maybe moyer or maddux didnt do something similar
I would extremely surprised if Maddux or Moyer were juiced. And, Moyer and Maddux haven't been teammates with Roger Clemens or Jose Canseco, and have never been linked to anything by any trainers. If they did, there would be a book about it.
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i would too but im just saying that in this age, i wouldnt be shocked if they did. another good example of a guy who i wouldnt think used anything; paul bryd. his fastball is no faster than moyer and maddux and he got busted for HGH
So you would be surprised if they did, but then you wouldn't be shocked if they did. You are making no sense right now man. And Paul Byrd took HGH because he had a f*cking tumor. Greg Maddux did not take any kind of performance enhancer. Greg Maddux just drinks beer and sleeps with other player's wives.
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what i mean is maddux and moyer are probly the last players you would think using stuff right? i wouldnt expect them too or neither would you. nobody expected a-rod was using stuff and we just found out that he did. i never thought he used anything, and yet he did. that surprised me. but yet it didnt surprise me because this is the STEROID era. the same thing would happen if a guy like moyer or maddux did it. i wouldnt expect them to do it, but since this is the steroid era, i wouldnt be surprised. its hard to put into words what im trying to get across
But in a way, I kinda expected A-Rod to do it. He fits the mold. Plus Jose Canseco just said like last year that he was writing a new book with dirt on A-Rod.
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Pennstate that's why this era is going to be known as the steroid era which is really sad. I'm going to be honest I question Ryan Howard if he took steroids. He has hit 50+ homeruns and 47 homeruns in a season. Its sad but because of all the players caught taken steroids I will doubt every baseball hitters abiltity.
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So steve we can only assume some players took steroids becuase they "fit the mold?" you can't stereo type players into if they used some sort of drug or not.
I kinda have to agree with Steve on this one, to say 800 players are on some kind of preformance enhancer is just absurd. Also A-Roid does have to fear about getting into to the hall not just because existing non jucied members of the hall do the actual voting but because McGwrie has set a precedent not getting in. Nobody that hit 500 homers in a career were denied on the their first ballot and McGwire has been hovering in no mans land around 20% for the last 3 years which is a far cry from the 75% needed to get in. Nobody has gotten in EVER with the percentage that McGwire got on his first vote.
But i think the difference between mcgwire and a-rod is a-rod didn't lie about it. A-rod came out and told us what happened while mcgwire still hides behind his lies.
Pete Rose,Mark Mcgwire,Sammy Sosa,Roger Clemens,etc. If they told us the truth when the stories first came up, I would think most of them would be in better shape right now. Yes I do know Rose did not take roids. I have him up there because of gambling.
Well lets hold on a second here, exactly 1 year ago when A-Roid was asked the million dollar question by Katie Couric he did deny EVER using ANY kind of preformance enhancers. In my book he is just as guilty as anyone, what because he didnt know for sure that he tested positive for something he did do he is allowed to deny it until its public knowledge. C'mon!!!!
But i think the difference between mcgwire and a-rod is a-rod didn't lie about it.
Yeah until there was a positive test, he also lied about various incidents that actually never happened the way A-Roid told it about the reporter who broke the story. Even though he was guilty he wanted the world to say AWL.....poor A-Roid. As far as I'm concerned the Texas Rangers gave A-Roid 252 million reasons to not take a damn thing.
The only reason A-Roid is not in the same boat as Clemens and Bonds is that A-Roid was never called in front of any committee to testify, if he was do you really think he would have told the truth before there was kowledge of a positive test. If he was called to testify there in no doubt in my mind he would be facing perjury charges now.
No its not, A-rod would be in much more trouble if he was continuing to lie as we speak.
The part you guys dont get is he CANT lie now. The only reason he is telling the truth is because he has no other options. He is the ONLY player of the 104 that has been positively ID'd, Bonds has not, Clemens has not, McGwire, Sosa, and so on.
Its a fine line, in all fairness to A-Roid the testing was supposed to anyomous, but to answer your question JP yes I do, I think in order in uphold the integrity of the game in the future that you have investigate the past, but not just the players but MLB as well. I think we would all be horrified if we actually knew the truth as to how long Bud had an idea that his players were jucing and did nothing about it. MLB's sole responsibility is to uphold the integrity of the game and they seriously dropped the ball. I alone can go back as far as 1993 when I suspected Lenny Dykstra of my beloved Phillies. I remember Sosa starting out with the Whitesox and coulnt believe it was the same guy on the Cubs.
