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King Baja · Guru

RE: Tom Cable Raiders Coach.

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

That's your opinon Baja, I don't think Al Davis sucks, I think he is crazy and so is George Steinbrenner, Jerry Jones, Mark Cuban. But you gotta respect their success.

SteveMJ31 · Guru

I'm gonna have to agree with JP on this one. While Al Davis may have made some really bad decisions lately, and I mean awful decisions, with his franchise, running a football team isn't something that you just forget how to do. He still can run a football team, he just hasn't made really any good decisions lately.

The Freak Captain Obvious · Guru

baja wrote:

I speak my mind. Like you said I stick to what I believe.

As for Haynesworth there is no question that he is one of the best in the game today. He will go to a team that has cap room for this big deal he is going to want. They also are going to obviously need him. The Bucs,Broncos,Bengals,Packers,Chiefs,and the Titans. These are all possibilities. IMO he's going to the Broncos or Bengals.

Dont forget to add the Lions to that list. They have a lot of dough and his old DC is now the head coach there.

King Baja · Guru

SteveMJ31 wrote:

I'm gonna have to agree with JP on this one. While Al Davis may have made some really bad decisions lately, and I mean awful decisions, with his franchise, running a football team isn't something that you just forget how to do. He still can run a football team, he just hasn't made really any good decisions lately.

I will believe it when i see he can still run a team.

pennstate10min · Senior Member

i agree with cheesybacon, i think davis needs to step down, then they wil become a relevant franchise again

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

He will never step down until he is not physically able to do it.

Bob333 · Guru

He will step down when he is six feet under the ground.

cheesybacon24 · Senior Member

I know that's what's going to happen but what needs to happen is davis leaves.

Bob333 · Guru

the Raiders get an owner that gets a great coach and they start progressing and start winning because he will let the coach run the team not him.

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

If you think Al Davis will let the Coach run the team 100% then just ask Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden and Lane Kiffin what they think.

SteveMJ31 · Guru

Exactly. He hired and fired Art Shell, twice. He moved from Oakland to Los Angeles back to Oakland. This guy is some sort of bi-polar.

King Baja · Guru

jeffpeck wrote:

He will never step down until he is not physically able to do it.

I hope he lives as long as Ralph Wilson

WallyGator · Senior Member

baja wrote:

I like how u can't back up anything u say with facts JP

-- Edited by baja at 16:34, 2009-02-09

I'm still waiting for facts as to why Davis has sell the team for them to suceed, "he sucks" and "I hope he lives as long as Ralph Wilson" dont qualify as acceptable answers. I believe you're calling people out and going so far as to call them hypocrits. Just give me one fact as to why he has to SELL the team, just one, and making bad decisions and not letting his personel do their job is not acceptable as well.

King Baja · Guru

Because he is 80 and senile.

cheesybacon24 · Senior Member

So the fact that he's senile is a fact? o ok.

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

baja wrote:

Because he is 80 and senile.

80, yes. Senile? I don't know if thats a fact unless your a clincial psychologist or something.

King Baja · Guru

anybody who makes the decisions he makes has to be senile.

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

anybody who continues to argue without backing up facts is senile.

King Baja · Guru

he doesn't let people do their jobs. He wants to control the team. he won't lose that attitiude.

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

We've established that, I even said that. He is not going to change, he's 80 freakin years old baja. Raiders fan just are used to it, just like Yankees fans, cowboy fans etc.

HE'S THE OWNER!!!

King Baja · Guru

that is why he has to give it up

King Baja · Guru

HE IS TOO ****ING STUBBORN

The Freak Captain Obvious · Guru

says the guy who has been arguing the same point everyone has been making for days now.

King Baja · Guru

Mike White, Joe Bugel, Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell, and Lane Kiffin.

Seven coaches in 14 years. Only one has been successful and he was driven out by Al Davis because the two conflicted over play calling and personnel decisions. Gruden preferred the west coast offense, Davis wanted deep drops and long passes. Gruden went on to win a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay, the Raiders have the worst record in the NFL over the past five years, having won just 19 games.

There is your answer.