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Ok i hate the yankees. This post is to get everyone's views on if you think they'll win it all with they're own little shopping spree.

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Cheesy I think you missed it in the Hot Stove topic, but I say the Yankees will make the playoffs but I dont think they will win the World Series

If they do, I'm putting it down right here, I will change my name to Thunderfan1374

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haha ya i might've missed it... o well. more time to rant on the evil empire!

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I love the Yankee beating because quite frankly it never gets old because of the success the yankees has had and will contunue the have with this lineup

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I think that this could just hurt them even more. I know they had one real big super star in A-Rod last year and he had a bad year. Now they haev 4 in Burnett, Sabathia, A-rod and Texiera. I think Tex and A-Rod will both only be going for their numbers which will hurt them down the line and CC and AJ will come out and try to prove they are the best thing that has happend to then and end up falling apart at the end of the year kinda like CC did in the playoffs with the Brewers except he wont be pitching on three days rest every time

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CC did not fall apart in the playoffs. he gave up like 2 to 3 runs in his game. but bob weren't you blaming jerry jones for just getting players without "chemistry." Hasn't steinbrenner kind of done the same thing here just bringing in superstar after superstar?

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Cheesy I do agree that this might not work out and I am hoping that it will. I did say that and it could be like the Tigers where they got superstar after superstar and finished last last year.

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Well yea. Mags, Cabrrea, Shefield (to an extent), Granderson. If they can mesh than they can do good just like the yankees.

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Ok, let's talk about chemistry. Last night I was watching a TV show on Comcast Sports Net called Chicago Tribune Live. It's kinda like Around the Horn, but it's an hour long, and the panel changes with each topic. Last night they had on Cubs TV play-by-play annoyance Len Kasper. But instead of being annoying and idiotic he actually brought up a good point. They asked him what impact the Milton Bradley signing will have on the chemistry of the team. He goes, "chemistry is one of the most over-rated things in this sport. Look, this is baseball, there are 162 games in a season, there are times when everyone gets along and there are times when everyone gets a little chippy. But the thing is, if the team is winning, the chemistry is always going to be good. But it's when they're losing that the players kinda turn on each other."

So with the straight up talent of the Yankees they will make the playoffs. Buuuut they'll choke because they still have A-Rod.


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i hate the yankees so i dont want to be in this conversation.

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Woohoo, Bob, you and I actually agreed on something.

Tigers = FTW!

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I am a Yankees fan and agree with SteveMJ. Chemistry is huge. The teams in the 90s not only had unbelievable talent but had great chemistry. That is what was wrong with the teams from 2003 - Present. Chemistry is what makes a team.

Do I think the Yankees will be good this year, definately. I'm not going to abandon my team, would you? lol.

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Well reading what len kasper said i think he's kind of wrong. Whatever the team is doing doesn't necessarily mean that the chemistry will do the same thing. Look at the Mariners... they sucked last year but you didn't see any player or coach throw each other under the bus. The manager stood up for his team, and had a positive attitude everyday. With the yankees on the other hand, once they start to lose it's going to be the dallas cowboys 2.0.

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Glad we could agree Pistons, the Mariners don't count cheesy their team is a joke and lets be honest most teams don't throw their coach under the bus unless your Dallas , NYJ, and the NYY which is really sad.

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how do the mariners "not count." I was just proving a point that just because a team does bad they don't turn on each other. All the time now you see bad or slipping teams turning on each other so character is an issue with your yankees.

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The Yankees arent the only team ever to have character issues and I really dont see their issues with their managers ever really being an issue in the last 15 years unless it involved George Steinbrenner. What about any team Terrell Owens has been on? Or Allen Iverson? Or Milton Bradley.

Very rarely do you hear A-Rod, Derek Jeter etc. throwing Joe Girardi or Joe Torre (when he was there) under the bus? I have never seen that.

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true but jeter's been on that team since... psh i don't know early 90's?? With all these superstars coming in... sabathia, burnett, texieria, it might be different. And all be it the issue of character probably won't be that big of a deal but then you're going to have to look at the media. If they don't perform what will happen? Look at what the media did to Randy Johnson. Look at what they're still doing to a-rod. If these new guys don't win it will be the same story and eveyone knows it.

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Well i think fi anyones gonna hold that teram together to any extent its gonna eb Jeter and Meriano Revera

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When people talk about how brutal and intense the New York media is, they mean it. Living in New York in the heart of it all I see it all the time on our papers. Of course if the Yankees don't win a World Championship they will be scrutinized. Because the Yankees have set the bar for themselves to make a run at the Championship every year. The Mets get the same stuff the Yankees do.

The Knicks are a circus nightmare themselves and the Rangers are an exception lately to the media due to the hockey coverage not really being that "interesting" as compared to a titanic Basketball franchise and the arms race between the Yankees & Mets.

It's New York, there's a certain bar you have to reach every year. You don't see the Brewers or the Pirates get bashed in the papers when they don't compete, do you? A-Rod is a celebrity whether we like him or not and he plays for one of the top 5 most profilic baseball franchises.

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In response to cheesybacon. What I think Len Kasper was tryin to say is that when a team that has high expectations starts losing a lot of games, the chemistry falls apart. You saw it with the Cubs 2 years ago. We were losing and were in a very bad stretch through April and May. Then Carlos Zambrano punched Michael Barrett in the dugout.

And in response to Jeffpeck. You said you agreed with me then you said chemistry is huge. I'm saying chemistry is irrellevant in baseball. And with the exception of the 1990 Reds, the great teams of the 90s did have great chemistry. That kinda proves my point about how chemistry is good when the team is winning. Very confusing statement by you.

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I mis-read your statement then steve.

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I wouldn't want to play for the yankees even I did have the talent, constant media coverage has got to get old after a while. Yankees will make a giant run at the playoffs now whether they make the World Series is beyond me. If A-rod can hit and the pitching is solid then they have a good shot, if not then they will make the playoffs and make an early exit

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I gotcha steve... and yes if a team has enormous expectations and they don't meet them, of course people are going to turn on each other and get aggrivated. I don't see the difference if players turn on each other in football or baseball. I understand that baseball has 162 games but they play practically everyday. If they don't get over their "problems" qucikly, many games will suffer. In football you could bomb a game but then have a full week to "recover" and try and regroup.

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Yea, thats why I'm agreeing with Len Kasper(honestly never thought I'd say that) when he says chemistry in baseball is over-rated. There are 162 games in a season. Chemistry in the locker room comes and goes so frequently.

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I wouldn't want to play for the yankees even I did have the talent, constant media coverage has got to get old after a while. Yankees will make a giant run at the playoffs now whether they make the World Series is beyond me. If A-rod can hit and the pitching is solid then they have a good shot, if not then they will make the playoffs and make an early exit



i agree with the part when you say if the pitching is solid, then the yankees have a shot. but a-rod is not the only bat in that line-up. with teixeria, thats going to take a little pressure off of a-rod. the reason why the yankees didnt make the playoffs last year was because of spotty pitching, and because they were horrible with runners in scoring position with 2 outs. the game tying run would be at third and a-rod, or jeter, or abreu, or giambi, would ground out. i think this year with teixeira they are definetly going to improve in that category

 



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They had good pitching penstate, their problem was that they couldn't score any runs in a game and thats why the Yankees faded in mid July last year.

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yeah sometimes it was good, sometimes it was bad. hence the term, spotty

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Call the hitting spotty. the pitching was the crowning point of the Yankees team they couldn't hit and it is really sad with all that talent.

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Jeff said earlier that those Yankee teams from the mid-90's had great talent. I disagree. guys like Leyritz,O'Neil, and brosius didnt have a ton of talent but they knew their roles and played with heart and passion. thats the issue the Yankees have now is that they have no heart or passion when they play. Most of the time it seems they just come out and expect the other team to cower in awe. Then when the other team doesn't, the Yanks have a hard time trying to fight through it. The series in the ALCS when the Sox came back from being down 3 games to none blew the modern mystique of the Yankees apart. No one is in awe of the anymore and until they get some guys in their who play like Jeter and less like A-Rod they wont win the series.

On a side note, as a Cub fan they should have never signed Bradley. They should have gone with Adam Dunn.

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I would rather go with Milton Bradley I know he has his issues CO, but having said that he is a ballplayer that can hit better and field better than Adam Dunn.

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Better fielder....the guy only played 25 games in the OF last year. He has never stayed healthy when he had to play the field. Dunn is a walking machine and would hit 45 homers in wrigley.

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Ha depends how the wind goes for him. Adam Dunn is a good hitter but thats it, you need someone that can play defense . Someone that has speed in the outfield thats him.

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but the gap is way bigger between milton's offense and dunn's defense. Sure dunn isn't as good a defender but there's no way bradley can put up the offensive numbers that dunn can. If you think wind would affect dunn who can crush a ball 460+... think about bradley.

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Yah but you wouldn't get Milton for power hitting I think that Milton is more of a contact hitter than a power hitter.

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I mean Bradley will put up good numbers in Wrigley, if he stays healthy which he never does when he has to play the field. Dunn can play the field and he would be insurance at 1b if the Cubs decide to move Lee after the season.

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Leyritz, Brosius and O'Neill were role players. Talented role players. They came up big when we needed em, played with a lot of heart and were great whether as starters or bench players.

They had a lot clicking when they had guys like Spencer, Strawberry, Leyritz, Chad Curtis being great role players.

I disagree they didn't have a lot of talent, I believe they were very underated

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with all the signing the Yankees made is it even possible to live up to expectations unless they win like 130 games and the World Series. The Yankees could spend more wisely and help bail out the economy instead of spending half a billion dollars on what 4 players.

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Wally your probaly right, but you heard Hank Steinbrener saying that he will do whatever it takes to get the Yankees back to contending, and it looks like he just did that.

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True but there's a difference between contending and winning.

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CC Sabathia will eat his way out of the rotation by August

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I don't think so C.C. will be better this year than last year because he'll go on five days rest instead of three.

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im just worried that all this money the yankees are spending doesnt go to waste. i hope sabathia stays healthy, and even though he doesnt have much of a history of getting injured, im worried that his body will break down because hes a big guy. Also, i hope burnett's elbow stays healthy because he has some problems with it in toronto

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Knowing the Yankees some of the money will go to waste and it happend with Carl Pavano and Jason Giambi.

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Nah sabathia's a beast... i don't think injury will be a problem with him. I am a little skeptical on burnett though. He's kind of like a ben sheets, when he's healthy he's dominate, but he's not healthy very often.

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Yes the Yankees spent a lot in an economy in trouble right now, but it can turn into a positive if the Yankees make more then last year thanks to ticket/merchandice/television etc. sales. Signing Sabathia, Burnett and Texiera has helped sell the higher priced seats in the new Yankee Stadium. It is great for the city of New York if they are successful.



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Yah when ever you bring people in that are good more people will wnat to se you those guys in action playing for the Yankees.

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i just think the yankees have too much talent to choke away a season. That roster is just so loaded i don't see how all of those superstars won't show up. When the playoffs come i can see it but as of making the playoffs, i don't see that being a problem.

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Now there being so effing ****y i was hearing a rumor they might be trying to get Ben Sheets also

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if they have the money, i dont see why they dont get the best talent out there. the reason why the yanks, sox, mets, and cubs are in contention every year is because there not afraid to spend money.

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I don't think it's they're not "afraid" to spend money, it's because they're able to spend money without any limits.

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