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pennstate10min · Senior Member

more offseason moves

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Well uh lets see. Surprised with Brian Dawkins kinda expected him to stay in Philly. I dont get half of what the Cowboys do expecially in bringing in Kitna. Antonio Smith? Uh sorry dont know him. Lito Sheppard helps the Jets Secondary out alot

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

I agree with 88DJ and have to go with Lito Sheppard joining the Jets secondary. It's been a very changing off-season for Gang Green with Favre retiring and Coles being released. This move definately has put them back in the right direction.

King Baja · Guru

Antonio Smith was a backup DE for the Cards. I have no idea why they made such a big deal about it. Denver has needed a veteran safety ever since they fired Lynch. The Eagles are apparently on heroin, for trading away Lito for 2 low draft picks. Brooking I think has one more average season left in him, and I don't really care about a sucky backup QB.

-- Edited by baja at 01:18, 2009-03-01

Jeff Peck · The Moderator

baja wrote:

Antonio Smith was a backup DE for the Cards. I have no idea why they made such a big deal about it. Denver has needed a veteran safety ever since they fired Lynch. The Eagles are apparently on heroin, for trading away Lito for 2 low draft picks. Brooking I think has one more average season left in him, and I don't really care about a sucky backup QB.

-- Edited by baja at 01:18, 2009-03-01

Maybe Philly is making cap room for either TJ Houshmandzadeh or Marvin Harrison. That is the only logical thinking I have when it comes to letting Lito Shepard and Brian Dawkings leave your franchise.

88DaleJRFan · Guru

I really believe that TJ Houshmandzadeh will end up in Seattle

pennstate10min · Senior Member

eagles also need cap room to sign people to their offensive line which right now is missing 2 out of 5 starters from last year. im sad to see dawkins go, but then agin i can see why they did let him go. hes past his prime and he probly has 2 maybe 3 years left. they did the same thing with jevon kearse, jeremiah trotter, and takeo spikes, and none of them have performed as well as they did in philly. the eagles definetly need a #1 reciever so i dont care how they get it. if they dont sign houshmandzadeh, they better trade for bolidin.

Gino · Guru

im real happy the lions got rid of jon kitna he suxs real bad and they get even worst when the leave the lions like joey harrington got worst when he left, Roy Williams... havent heard bout him as much since he left.

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Yeah well when Roy Williams left he was just pretty muched out casted in Dallas. Tony Romo didn't throw the ball to him any and neither did Brad Johnson for the time he played when Romo was hurt

pennstate10min · Senior Member

some additional moves:
bucs sign michael clayton
jets sign brandon moore

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Well the Bucs are trying to take the "Youth" move and build the team around young guys. Not a good move if you ask me

pennstate10min · Senior Member

they can get all the recievers they want, the fact is unless they draft or sign a qb to throw to them, they are not going to have an offense

88DaleJRFan · Guru

They already have ahlf a dozen QB's there. (Not Really just seems like it) They have Brian Gresie who can throw still but is getting up there in age and they signed Luke McCown to a two year deal back in January which led to the Jeff Garcia leaving train

pennstate10min · Senior Member

yeah but if i were a bucs fan, i wouldnt want griese or mccown as my starting qb. i would want them to draft a qb wiht a bright future, or sign a qb maybe like leftwich

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Well when Grises played last season he didn't totaly suck nuts. He showed he still has something left in the game against the Bears and Steve would know bringin them from behind to win in OT throwing 64 passes

pennstate10min · Senior Member

but in that game, as he did all season, he threw more picks than touchdowns. hes kind of a poormans version of brett favre. hes going to throw the ball alot for alot of yards, but he is also going to throw alot of picks

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Yeah that's the bad thing. The Bucs have the 19th pick in the draft i believe and they could use someone young to go into the defense but really the ideal thing that they could do if he is still there is grab Mark Sanchez or even in the later rounds with Hunter Cantwell or Davis from Ball ST

King Baja · Guru

I think my bucs are going to throw this season to get a QB next year. Someone like Bradford

King Baja · Guru

Sanchez probably won't be there at 19 dale

88DaleJRFan · Guru

He could be. I just threw his name out there cause the Mock drafts i've sene having him going either the tenns or twentys. Odds are he will end up with the Jets at 16

pennstate10min · Senior Member

baja as a bucs fan would you want them to get a qb at their draft spot or get something else

King Baja · Guru

If Sanchez is there at 19 we should get him, but I don't he will be there. They might take Josh Freeman.

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Josh Freeman isn't worthy of a first round pick. He played good at KSU but i dont think he will be as succesfull in the NFL. I thinkt he bucs could get a good LB like Ray Maloluga at 19 to strengthen that Line backer core a little bit more.

King Baja · Guru

Sebastian Janikowski says hi- he wasn't worthy of a 1st round pick either but he got picked. Dale for all you know he might become the next Mcnabb

88DaleJRFan · Guru

If he turns out to be the next Mcnabb i'll give you 20 bucks

King Baja · Guru

Ok get ready to pay up, we are going to draft him at 19. He will become great

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Ok. Now how do you guys think the Eagles will fill the void left by Brian Dawkins? He was the heart and Soul of that defense and brought in alot of energy

pennstate10min · Senior Member

freeman has a huge arm, but his accuracy comes into question. so as far as that goes, than mcnabb is a decent comparison

King Baja · Guru

88DaleJRFan wrote:

Ok. Now how do you guys think the Eagles will fill the void left by Brian Dawkins? He was the heart and Soul of that defense and brought in alot of energy

One of their stars will have to step up, like Mcnabb or Westbrook

88DaleJRFan · Guru

But McNabb is a proven winner, even though he hasn't won a Championship he can still lead his team there and if they can get the right pieces together they could win it with him at the helm. What did freemen do at KSU?

-- Edited by 88DaleJRFan at 14:19, 2009-03-01

King Baja · Guru

What did Brady do for michigan? You don't have to have a great college career to be a great pro QB

pennstate10min · Senior Member

as far as dawkins goes, im dissapointed to see him go. he was the leader of the team and brought alot of intesity. but as i said, they have done this before and it worked. quintin demps its your turn to step up, and i think he has enough talent to fill that position, not as a leader yet, but as a free safety

-- Edited by pennstate10min at 14:24, 2009-03-01

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Ok well Tom Brady is different from others. Some how he wasn't the best QB in College then got in the right system with Bill Belicheat and now look what he's done. Thats like a once in a life time thing to happen

Bob333 · Guru

Brian Dawkins will make an impact on the Broncos because of his experience and leadership abitlites. Now with Champ Baeily and John Lynch it looks very good for the Broncos.

King Baja · Guru

88DaleJRFan wrote:

Ok well Tom Brady is different from others. Some how he wasn't the best QB in College then got in the right system with Bill Belicheat and now look what he's done. Thats like a once in a life time thing to happen

Once in a lifetime? George Blanda,Dan Fouts,Sonny Jurgensen,Warren Moon, Bart Starr,Fran Tarkenton,Johnny Unitas,Norm Van Brocklin,and Bob Waterfield say hi. All of these players are in the HOF by the way.

Bob333 · Guru

Whats the point of this??????????????

King Baja · Guru

I said Josh Freeman has the potential to be the next Mcnabb, and Dale said he wasn't a great college player. These are all not so good college players who ended up being HOFs in the pros.

Bob333 · Guru

Oh ok I don't rad half of the posts I only read the one that was most recent. Hey lets not forget about Matt Cassel he is pretty good and he didn't do very good in college.

King Baja · Guru

Um no he's not Bob. If u gave Daunte Culpepper Moss,Welker,Watson,great O line, and an ok running game, he could put up the same numbers

Bob333 · Guru

Um yes he is Baja he did good wit hthe Patritots last year, and watch him do good this year. Danute sucks even if he had the same team than he would probaly do 15 touchdown passes and throw a lot of interceptions becasue he is a good passer.

King Baja · Guru

ok maybe not Daunte, but someone above average.

pennstate10min · Senior Member

half of cassel's numbers wouldnt be the same if it wasnt for moss, welker, watson, and evry other weapon on the pats

King Baja · Guru

He's basically a slower version of Jeff Garcia, completes 5 to 15 yard passes.

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Uh well You do know Matt Cassel didn't get to play in college behind Linart and Palmer

King Baja · Guru

I never agreed with Bob, Dale, when he said Cassel fit into those categories.

-- Edited by baja at 19:40, 2009-03-01

Bob333 · Guru

Hey we'll find out this season if he is any good. But you could say the same for Danute Culpepper

88DaleJRFan · Guru

Danute Culpepper Yes he went to UCF and their not known for Football but what eh did there was amazing. He set all of the school records for Passing i believe and he helped get that program going a little bit

King Baja · Guru

Daunte Cullpepper was a very good college player. One of the main reasons he was picked #11 in the draft

SteveMJ31 · Guru

88DaleJRFan wrote:

Well when Grises played last season he didn't totaly suck nuts. He showed he still has something left in the game against the Bears and Steve would know bringin them from behind to win in OT throwing 64 passes

Can we please never mention Greasy and the Bears? Those are just memories I never want to recall. I hated him when he was on the team, and I hated him even more after that game at Chicago(F*ck you Bob Babich, learn how to run a defense!).

King Baja · Guru

What the hell do u want the Bears to do Steve?